Hey there!
There’s an often quoted statistic that says that the average role receives over 1500 submissions, and that, on average, it takes a union actor 200 auditions to get a single booking.
Turns out that’s even more universal than we think, and for the same technical reason.
Barron’s article on job applicant “ghosting:” https://www.barrons.com/articles/job-applicant-ghosting-51547761704
Hope this helps!
David
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I will admit that there have been jobs I could WISH I had ghosted! I remember one in particular that I had misgivings about even at the interview, but I wanted the job badly enough that I rationalized it, saying, ‘how bad could it actually be?’ I should have known better! If you’re having apprehensions at the interview— It’s not going to get any better! Then, the day I started that job, after an all-morning team meeting with the development manager (who was my “in” for that job) broke for lunch, I actually asked, in front of the team, “Has anyone ever quit this place on their first day?” I already had the sense that I could get away with the question, and they loved it, laughing heartily! And then proceeded to give me two examples of people who had done just that!
That job lasted 9 months for me, but I can well imagine how someone with less commitment to his word would easily have gone to lunch and not come back.
The very first play in which I was cast after moving to “the big city”, the stoner that had been cast in the lead (to this day I have no idea why that happened) couldn’t learn his lines, and “ghosted” (though we didn’t call it that then) for dress rehearsal. No understudy, and the show closed before it opened. I have never been so disgusted with a fellow performer.
Absolutely not. I’m old school tho… spent 20 years in IT and has one person ghost us (my company) in that time frame. What I understand though is that it is pretty common now. I’ve heard HR people talking about it. Very sad state of affairs in my book. Shows a lack of consideration and decorum…
One of the big differences from other jobs and acting/VO jobs is that casting directors/producers talk to each other. Other industries do not and actually actively disregard things like ghosting. Want a reference from a former employer? No matter the reason for your leaving, they won’t do anything other than say you were in fact employed there. The acting industry has no issue letting each other know who the bad “actors” are since the deck (production team, et al) is shuffled practically every project. That is how i see ghosting becoming a thing.
I feel like I may have ghosted an employer after a few days, but I don’t remember it well. It was a blip on the radar of my life. Not a good thing if I did though. I remember working at a different place for one day and loathing the job so much that I told my employer I would not be returning. I was at least a little more courteous and responsible in that case. I was ghosted by an ex-girlfriend. We dated for maybe 3 weeks, and we were definitely in a relationship, then she just…disappeared. She never replied to my voicemails, text messages, or Facebook messages. She actually reached out to me on Facebook years later to apologize. Thanks for the video David.
Doesn’t seem like you ghosted your employer – you just gave very, very little notice. :-)
Interesting post and article. Thank you. No I would never ghost an employer at this point. Way too much to lose in terms of professional credibility. But I wouldn’t have done it even when I was starting out. It wasn’t a thing. I remember agonizing once over a job that I just hated. We had started rehearsals for a show, and I couldn’t swallow what I was being asked to do. It seemed demeaning, and I just didn’t want to do it. First and last time it’s ever happened to me that I couldn’t somehow communicate with the people I was working with to make the situation work for me. I either told her I was quitting or maybe asked my agent to do it. That seems likely, since I don’t have a memory of actually talking to the director or her response.
Yes, it’s bad manners. It’s also bad manners on the employer’s side. How many times have actors been “on avail” or “pinned” for a job, and the only way they find out they didn’t get it is the start date comes and no one has called. (Answer: all the time.) So many times that we’ve stopped considering it bad manners and just assume that’s “how things work.” But we should remember for our own sanity that it is bad manners. Once after being put on tape Friday, I was asked out of the blue on the following Tuesday, “Can you leave for Chile on Thursday?” Yes. And I started making arrangements for my animals and stopped buying milk, “just in case.” Waited all day Wednesday, finally asking my agent to call and find out. They never called her back. Wednesday night I figured I must not be going to Chile. It felt pretty incredibly rude.
But on our side – the actor – the dating partner – I really think that there is strength in quitting something – in saying no. When something isn’t right for you, there’s a value in the act of saying a definite no that you miss if you just fade away and never see the person/job again. There’s something cowardly and passive about it that I think hurts you as much as it hurts the other party. The only exception I can think of would be someone who is truly bad for you – dangerous emotionally, physically or psychically, and then any way you can leave is a good way.
Thank you for this. A lot to think about.
I’m old school so I call if I’m going to be late or if there is a delay of some kind. I give way too much notice and offer to train the next person if needed. I have been ghosted by talent (dancer/singers) when I was producing shows. Not cool at all. Can you say Blacklisted! The only time I may have ghosted somebody, but we didn’t call it that back then, was a bad relationship and it meant my sanity or safety.